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Beware Windows Phone Developers: A Generic Phone Image Can Get Your App Rejected (updated)

The Windows Phone Marketplace takes time to accept and reject your app based on their rules much like most other app stores on the mobile landscape. There have been many debates on the advantages and disadvantages of such an approach, but what we usually do agree upon in the community is that there is a need for consistency and rationality in enforcing those rules.

I’m writing this because just today an update of Toshl for Windows Phone 7 got rejected by the Marketplace staff. The reason: multiple iPhone references in the app. We all looked in confusion as none of us could recall any iPhone references in the app nor in the description. It was also only a minor update fixing a few bugs, so there were no UI changes where iPhone references could have crept in. Previous versions which were identical UI-wise got accepted without any problems.

To quote the rejection:

Requirements
If an application depicts any mobile or wired telephone, handheld PDA, or any other data and voice communicator, it must be either generic or a Windows Phone device

Comments
Your application failed the Marketplace prohibited application policy check. Please review the above policy, notes below (if applicable), update and re-submit your application.
It appears there are multiple reference to the iPhone in the application. Please modify so that the mobile device is a Windows Phone or a generic mobile device.

Searching through the app all we found that even remotely resembled an iPhone was an error image where the Toshl dog is holding a phone in his hand. While it’s true that there’s only one button under the screen, the shape could depict almost any touch-based phone. In other words, generic.

Here’s how the error image looked like:
v1

In the absence of a good feedback channel and in the quest for the quickest solution possible to get the fixes to Toshl users we decided to change the design to look more Windows Phone-ey:
v2

We’re waiting for the results of the second review process. To be honest this whole issue seems quite silly and unfounded. If only they paid this much critical attention to the apps with poor UIs and user experiences the Marketplace would be a lot nicer place. So, what’s your opinion, was the phone image generic enough or not? Do you think the Marketplace rules are too strict or inconsistent?

Update (26. 8. 2011)

We’ve posted about this problem to Microsoft’s Ben Riga on Twitter and he was quick with the response and letting the Marketplace team know about this issue.

Here’s the respose from the Marketplace team:
The device containing strong similarities to the iPhone was found on the page depicted on your blogpost. While it does have strong similarities, it is a generic device and thus should not have failed during certification. We apologize for that inconvenience as well as the lack of direct information in the test report. In the future, feel free to also submit support requests from your App Hub account and you can expect prompt responses from the support team.

So all is well that ends well I guess. It’s good to know that Microsoft is responsive about such issues. But in the vein of a never 100% satisfied person I have to add: If only they would add Slovenia to the list of countries from where developers could actually have their own accounts, our development lives would be much easier.

Written by Matic Bitenc

Posted in Announcements, Development

Toshl and WebOS

In the light of pessimistic news around WebOS ecosystem, Toshl also decides to move on.

A few hours ago, HP announced that it is pretty much decapitating WebOS platform for mobile phone/tablet devices. This came as a shock to the whole WebOS developer community, known for its stubborn support of this revolutionary OS. The Toshl team was shocked as well.

Toshl, known for its cross platform support, has been developing a version for WebOS since first Palm Pre days. You can still see some screenshots of Toshl for WebOS around the internet, even though the version was never released. During our WebOS development struggle, we received fantastic support from some Palm and later on HP individuals like Ben Ritmeyer, Peter Helm, Adela Gildo-Mazzon, Sean Lindo and many others, and we think nothing but the best of these individuals. They were just awesome. But unfortunately the lack of HP properly backing up the platform finally put a stop to Toshl WebOS development, even though we spent a substantial amount of energy and financial resources on it.

From today on, Toshl WebOS development will no longer exist and Toshl WebOS version will not see a public release. We would like to thank Palm and HP for giving us fantastic support, we would like to thank WebOS community for providing extremely useful coding information and we would like to thank all the WebOS fans for sending us emails of encouragement. We are really sad to say goodbye to WebOS, not only due to once-promising platform facts, but also due to just personal love Toshl team had for this niche platform.

Toshl WebOS concept design

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Help Toshl win and improve! Toshl enters the Innotribe Start-up Challenge.

We have entered Toshl in the Innotribe Start-Up Challenge. That’s why we’re asking you to vote for Toshl and improve our chances of getting into the much coveted second round and then, hopefully win this thing.

A link just like this one: Vote for Toshl. Click. That’s it. No forms necessary. Just: Vote for Toshl.

Why is this a big deal?
The Innotribe is organised by SWIFT, the bank transaction company. It’s therefore about innovations in the banking and finance sectors, which is right up Toshl’s alley. Best of all, if we pass to the second round we get to pitch to many investors and executives from the world’s top banks and financial institutions. We want them to notice and listen because we’ve got big plans with Toshl. Together with banks we can make Toshl a better personal finance manager than you ever imagined.

So please, help us make Toshl and your finances even better:

Vote for Toshl

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Updated Toshl for BlackBerry is here

New day, new update. We have updated the Toshl expense tracker for the BlackBerry platform. Since the previous release was our first on the BlackBerry platform we have focused most on fixing the small bugs with expenses, budgets and syncing all those nuggets to toshl.com and other devices.

It’s not yet on the BlackBerry App World so you can get it right here on the Toshl for BlackBerry site.

It’s full of goodies and features like the other Toshl mobile apps, so you can use all the comforts of expenses, tags, budgets, export options etc.

We’re planning on finally publishing this version on the BlackBerry App World so we really appreciate your feedback and reports on any bugs that perhaps remain. If you encounter any problems please post them to our support site.

BlackBerry Toshl Export

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Toshl is in Top 10 business apps in Ovi Stores! (updated)

We’re proud to announce that Toshl is now number one among the business applications for Symbian^3 in the the Ovi Store. We’re super excited about this and would like to thank you, people using Toshl, for your support and valuable feedback.

Update: Turns out we are not No. 1 in Ovi Stores everywhere. Ovi localizes the store based on the IP and we are only in the No. 1. spot in some of them. We are still in Top 10 in most of them though. I’m sorry for the mixup.

If you have a Nokia Symbian^3 phone and still haven’t installed it, wait no more, grab Toshl at the Ovi Store right now! It’s the leading business app on Ovi you know. ;)

It’s nice to introduce yourself, but… Sign in fix is here.
You might have noticed that the initial release of Toshl 1.6 for Symbian had an annoying bug for existing users, demanding that they sign in each time they opened the app. We’re sorry about that and we have submitted the fix right away. Luckily the update has now come through the Ovi Quality Assurance process. So with 1.6.1 the pesky sign in bug shall bother you no more!

Full speed ahead Scottie!
We’re also working on another update which will bring back the bigger and friendlier action buttons, make the interface faster, more responsive and address some minor bugs as well. We’ll be submitting it soon so stay tuned in the next few days.

We have also properly updated our Toshl for Nokia Symbian^3 features site, so you can tell your friends all about it and (hopefully) make them drool over the screenshots.

Nokia E7 with Toshl saving the Queen of EnglandIt sure seems that the Queen of England could use some help these days. Our best wishes to Londoners and hoping for a quick end to the riots from the Toshl team.

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